Ive made quite a few posts about this guitar but this is probably the last, as I finally got it how I want it. I decided to remove the pickguard and noticed a difference in sheen of the finish where the pickguard was, but little to no tan line. I couldn't bring myself to put a different pickguard on as I love the naked look, and the color was pretty even, so I decided to try to buff the finish. I know many people warn against this as the finish is thin and could easily be worn down too low, but I managed to avoid this without using any products that include any chemicals. All I used was some 0000 steel wool, and a very light hand. I sanded very lightly until the sheen was consistent. I did the entire body, but the top is a little shinier than the back and sides, as I had to buff more to get the area where the pickguard was to match the rest of the top. It was a little tedious around the bridge, but it just required a little extra patience. The finish feels so much more smooth, and much quieter. I could have probably gotten it even shinier, but that was not my intention. Here are some before and after photos.
Thanks! I would have never done it if I wasn't so Intent on having no pickguard. I wouldn't have done it if it was an expensive guitar either. But Im glad I did it as I like both the look and feel much better now.
Looks great! I’ve wanted a 000-15sm for a while, but I’m really turned off by a satin/matte finish on a guitar, for whatever reason. I’m not sure my patience level is up to that task, but I wonder if there are luthiers around who could buff it out?
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Used to be, back in the day, that you almost couldn't GIVE someone a guitar with a non-gloss finish on it. Things changed.
Likely, the primary reasons they changed was that manufacturers found they could save a lot of money by eliminating steps in the finishing process. That included filling the pores of open-pored woods - such as mahogany - and not sanding flat after applying the finish: with a matte/satin finish, one doesn't see the irregularities in the as-applied finish.
If one buffs a non-filled open-pored wood that has texture from the application (i.e. spray gun), what one ends up with is a shiny, pitted, orange-peel-textured sort of surface. One does not end up with a typical well-produced gloss finish. There is also a fairly high chance of sanding through the very thin finish that is applied - once you sand through it, it becomes a lot more work to repair the finish, including matching the stain color, on stained wood, such as the 000-15sm. If/when that happens, it goes from one hour's work to many hour's work.
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That is not to say that no satin finish can successfully be buffed to a gloss, but the 000-15sm isn't a great choice for that work. With no slight to the OP, rubbing with 0000 isn't really what most luthiers describe as buffing a finish. If the OP is pleased with the result, that's all that matters.
I agree it is not exactly buffing, but I didn’t really know how else to word it. It came out extremely smooth with little texture. I think the 000-15 looks like the finish is either thinner, or possibly mahogany has more grain than Sapele. I don’t know if they used any grain filler on the Martin I have, but the finish was pretty smooth, even before I did anything, it just wasn’t shiny. There really is only a small amount of visible grain, nothing like say a gs mini mahogany, or the back and sides of my Taylor academy or 114.
I tend to agree with Charles on this score, especially with regard to open-pore wood like 'hog. I also think you'd find that one of the reasons satin finishes tend to be less expensive (or on less-expensive guitars) is that they aren't as detailed with the prep...no need to be, since the satin will cover up any uneven sanding, etc.
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I do however wish to point out that, after a few years of playing, parts of that guitar will polish out whether you want it to or not, especially the top on the lower bout, under where one's arm rides. It looks a bit blotchy on older, well-played examples.
I had this with my Larrivee L-03 and finally took the plunge; I am very pleased with the results; less handling noise, just a nicer tactile feel and it really shows off the grain. I can see some rough sanding areas from original prep...places where they sanded across the grain, palm-sander swirls, etc., but it can't be sen from more than about 10 away.
It will never look like a full-gloss finish, but my L-03 has an appealing satiny gloss to it not unlike the finishes on Lowden guitars. I didn't use any sandpaper on it, BTW...just used Meguires automotive hand-rubbing compound and lots of elbow grease. Just don't use anything that has silicone in it.
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I think buffing with compound is less risky in terms of going through the finish, but since I sanded with a higher grit than the matte finish (0000 steel wool), I feel that it got rid of most of the imperfections that came from the factory that you mentioned. There is no unevenness or visible sanding marks. 0000 steel wool is pretty fine and didn’t leave any noticeable scratches, like many claim. Possibly because I didn’t use any force, just lightly rubbed it with fresh sheets until it was even. I think many people would be uncomfortable with this approach, but it really worked well and the finish is very even and has a nice semi gloss finish now.
As far as steel wool goes, I will relate that the stuff you get in most hardware stores is very inconsistent and often has residual oils it it. The hardware store stuff is where steel wool gets it's spotty reputation, and rightfully so.
I love using 0000, but several years back I switched to the Liberon brand. If anyone is still using hardware store steel wool they owe it to themselves to try it. I buy the larger rolls and it gets used for a lot of things. There's just no comparison between Liberon and any other product.
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As a repairer, I would rather do a gloss finish any day than a satin finish, satin is harder to get perfect finish of the gun.
In your situation its good as you have an open pore finish, so one can scuff with steel wool or any other item and the micro scratches cannot be seen.
On a flat smooth satin finish one cannot hit it with steel wool, it just looks like a big pile of scratches.
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A flat smooth satin finish is so hard to get right, the tiniest spec of dust ruins the whole paint job and stands out like a sore thumb.Soft finish dampens the resonance There is a certain “rule of thumb” for a good guitar finish – and I’m convinced most luthiers would concur with me on this. In order to get the best tone out of wood, the finish should not dampen the resonance of it, right? And in order to not dampen the vibration of the wood, ideally the finish needs to be thin and hard. Why so?
It is common sense, really. If the finish forms a thick layer over the wood, it obstructs the sound waves within the wood. And if the finish forms a soft layer, it becomes an even more effective damper. And with this same logic, a thick
I’ve done my own research A great guitar finish feels right, looks right and protects the wood right. The finish must be thin and hard to not dampen the sound of the guitar. Instead of blindly doing what was done before me, I have trusted my own intuition and experience, done my own research, and found the very best finishes for my guitars.
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Glossy or satin finish? Other than the above mentioned criteria, the choice of finish is largely a matter of taste. One wants a durable glossy finish, whereas another might want to feel the wood right under the fingertips.
There are a lot of bad finish types available. Some feel sticky, or others make too thick layer no matter how you apply them. Therefore, I have taken the liberty – and responsibility – to rule out all finishes that don’t work well.
I only offer finish options that allow the wood to vibrate – finishes that feel and look great. I have also considered the environmental regulations when choosing the finish options.
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