Introducing the only high-fire stoneware tone bars made in the world! Developed over the course of a year(almost 800 prototypes made)with a dedicated focus group, my ceramic tone bars offer the discriminating player a new option when it comes to tone and playability. Lighter in weight than steel, Paloma Stone Slides exhibit excellent sustain, a warmer, organic tone, super-low string noise, and a never-wear scratch-free playing surface... all at a very reasonable price... only $20 for all sizes and glaze finishes. The round tone bars are available in three diameters, four stock lengths, indent or non-indent ends, and two glazes... blue and white. The white/clear glazed bars have a bit brighter tone spectrum than the warmer- toned cobalt blue bars. Both being warmer than steel. I also make Peterson-shaped tone bars and bottleneck style slides... Noted in the latest issue of Acoustic Guitar Magazine, the bars and slides are getting very good reviews on my web site and in the Steel Without Pedals world. You'll find lots of info on my web site... www.stoneslides.com or feel welcome to email me. These are not prototypes, these are the real deal! _________________ www.stoneslides.com is my Paloma Tone Bar and Bottleneck Slide web site www.clayrait.com is my Pottery web site
Yes, I have a round bar that is very close to those dimensions... See more info at www.stoneslides.com/products. There are size charts on that page. _________________ www.stoneslides.com is my Paloma Tone Bar and Bottleneck Slide web site www.clayrait.com is my Pottery web site
Tony, do I need to register for this? I don't plan on playin' but I plan to bring a box full of Paloma Stone Slide round tone bars in different sizes for the players to sample... and purchase if they like 'em. _________________ www.stoneslides.com is my Paloma Tone Bar and Bottleneck Slide web site www.clayrait.com is my Pottery web site
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Hi Jay, these look great. I'll be at the jam and definetly want a tone bar. Could you also bring a couple bottlenecks? I want one of those too.
I'll be bringing a selection of bars for everyone to sample and purchase, if they like. I'm looking forward to hearing first-hand how the players like the bars. I've been getting nice written reviews in the Forum and in my emails, but getting it straight from the player's mouth will be very interesting and hopefully, educational. And for those players who are also into bottleneck and slide guitar, I'll have some slides for them to check out as well. _________________ www.stoneslides.com is my Paloma Tone Bar and Bottleneck Slide web site www.clayrait.com is my Pottery web site
Jay, Thanks - received the bar...loving it! I will be ordering another within the week! Dave _________________ Dave Simonis Fiddle: Zeta, Arthur Conner, many others.../Steel: GFI SD-10 Ultra.../Mandolin: Breedlove.../Guitar: Gibson, Fender, Taylor.../Amps: Peavey NV112, Evans FET 500.../Others: Hilton, Goodrich, Stereo Steel, Pendulum Pre-amp...
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I picked up one of Jay's new bars at the NW steel jam that matches my standard bar in length and diameter. But what a difference in weight! If you want to play fast, this is the bar for you - super easy to move around, low drag. Thanks Jay!
Jay, Good to see you at the jam. Thanks for the stone-bar. It sounds very good and is ultra-light . See you at the next jam if not before.
I also picked up one of Jay's new stone-bars and it is a blast. Light and comfortable bullet nose about the same size as the Dunlop I have gotten used to. It is almost like putting a different tone setting on the amp because the upper mids come out more. To my ear it is a blusier tone more like a lapsteel. I bet it will react wonderfully with a touch of overdrive. And the price was right, too! Great to meet up with you, Jay.
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Is Jay making any weighted bars yet? We exchanged e-mails on what I would want weight-wise, but no answer yet if can or would make some. Thanx, Jim
Is Jay making any weighted bars yet? We exchanged e-mails on what I would want weight-wise, but no answer yet if can or would make some.
I spoke w/ Jay about the same thing @ the NW Steel Jam last week. I guess the stone is too tough to drill and the injection mold was not made to leave a core for weighting. I would imagine retooling costs might be prohibitive, but I'll let my ol' buddy Jay speak for himself. I find the blue-bar to remove some of the overtones (?) compared to my Stroud. It's a slightly cleaner and warmer sound, which might do well in the studio. It sounds great w/ both my Zum and P/P, but the lightness of it throws me off a bit.
Ceramic Stone Tone Bar For Lap/pedal Steel
Jim, I replied to your request and asked which bars you wanted weights for... perhaps you missed that reply. As I have over 48 size and shape options now, each slide/bar having a different weight, I am gradually weighing each unit and will be posting the weights when they are all compiled. I'll put a reference post on this forum when they are all entered. As far as adding weight is concerned, Tony is correct. You can not drill into the fired clay body. The temps that these are fired at yield an extremely hard material... it will completely ruin diamond/glass bits!!! I have a customer in Tennessee who is trying to do this with a buddy who has a high-tech machine shop. No word yet on his result. This hardness results in a very dense finished product and contributes considerably to the resultant tone. It would be possible to make a hollow slide and fill it with a heavy material and then cap the end but the extra time and set up would boost the cost of the bar/slide out of the ball park! As my goal has been to not compete with steel, but to provide another option, I have chosen to stay with the existing weights as being part of my bars/slides personality. The lighter weight has been an issue for a few players but so far, there have been so many positive compliments, I have hesitated to make such a drastic change to the bar's design. And players seem to like the $20 unit cost! As I move forward with the bars and slides, I continue to incorporate suggestions from players to improve playability and may have to give the extra weight issue additional attention if the requests for heavier bars keep coming in. The main issue then would be how much more would one be willing to pay to get a Paloma bar that weighs almost as much as steel. It is an intriguing concept! Using a lighter bar does feel different than what one may be used to. Imagine how uncomfortable it would be to start with a light bar, use it for years, and then be asked to switch to a heavy bar. I think there would be quite a few players who would find the heavy bar to be an issue for them... and they would prefer lighter! Thanks so much to everyone who has sent in comments and suggestions, please keep them coming... I make these bars/slides to meet players' requirements, not mine. It's all about making music! _________________ www.stoneslides.com is my Paloma Tone Bar and Bottleneck Slide web site www.clayrait.com is my Pottery web site
Hi Bob, There seems to be a mixed opinion regarding any loss in sustain with my ceramic bars vs. steel bars. There are those who say they can detect it and find it not an issue. There are those who say they can't detect it. And then there are those who haven't tried the bars yet and claim that they can't possibly sustain because they aren't heavy like steel! Many reviews posted on the Forum and on my web site bear these statements out. Personally, I tend to think that there is a very slight loss of sustain (when I monitor with a good mic and have headphones on) but that might not be an issue as the difference is so slight. I feel the slight loss is more than offset by the benefits of lighter weight (easier to move and hold), warmer tone, virtually silent surface noise on the strings, and a super hard surface that won't scratch and won't damage strings. It all comes down to how good your ears are, how good your equipment is, and what you are looking for in tone and playability. I'm not trying to re-invent the wheel here... just present another option for the player at a reasonable price. One must bear in mind that steel players have not had many choices over the years when it comes to bar materials, almost all have been made of steel with the exception of a few makers, like Tribotone and Slipperyslide for example. I think it's time for another option. _________________ www.stoneslides.com is my Paloma Tone Bar and Bottleneck Slide web
Is Jay making any weighted bars yet? We exchanged e-mails on what I would want weight-wise, but no answer yet if can or would make some. Thanx, Jim
Is Jay making any weighted bars yet? We exchanged e-mails on what I would want weight-wise, but no answer yet if can or would make some.
I spoke w/ Jay about the same thing @ the NW Steel Jam last week. I guess the stone is too tough to drill and the injection mold was not made to leave a core for weighting. I would imagine retooling costs might be prohibitive, but I'll let my ol' buddy Jay speak for himself. I find the blue-bar to remove some of the overtones (?) compared to my Stroud. It's a slightly cleaner and warmer sound, which might do well in the studio. It sounds great w/ both my Zum and P/P, but the lightness of it throws me off a bit.
Ceramic Stone Tone Bar For Lap/pedal Steel
Jim, I replied to your request and asked which bars you wanted weights for... perhaps you missed that reply. As I have over 48 size and shape options now, each slide/bar having a different weight, I am gradually weighing each unit and will be posting the weights when they are all compiled. I'll put a reference post on this forum when they are all entered. As far as adding weight is concerned, Tony is correct. You can not drill into the fired clay body. The temps that these are fired at yield an extremely hard material... it will completely ruin diamond/glass bits!!! I have a customer in Tennessee who is trying to do this with a buddy who has a high-tech machine shop. No word yet on his result. This hardness results in a very dense finished product and contributes considerably to the resultant tone. It would be possible to make a hollow slide and fill it with a heavy material and then cap the end but the extra time and set up would boost the cost of the bar/slide out of the ball park! As my goal has been to not compete with steel, but to provide another option, I have chosen to stay with the existing weights as being part of my bars/slides personality. The lighter weight has been an issue for a few players but so far, there have been so many positive compliments, I have hesitated to make such a drastic change to the bar's design. And players seem to like the $20 unit cost! As I move forward with the bars and slides, I continue to incorporate suggestions from players to improve playability and may have to give the extra weight issue additional attention if the requests for heavier bars keep coming in. The main issue then would be how much more would one be willing to pay to get a Paloma bar that weighs almost as much as steel. It is an intriguing concept! Using a lighter bar does feel different than what one may be used to. Imagine how uncomfortable it would be to start with a light bar, use it for years, and then be asked to switch to a heavy bar. I think there would be quite a few players who would find the heavy bar to be an issue for them... and they would prefer lighter! Thanks so much to everyone who has sent in comments and suggestions, please keep them coming... I make these bars/slides to meet players' requirements, not mine. It's all about making music! _________________ www.stoneslides.com is my Paloma Tone Bar and Bottleneck Slide web site www.clayrait.com is my Pottery web site
Hi Bob, There seems to be a mixed opinion regarding any loss in sustain with my ceramic bars vs. steel bars. There are those who say they can detect it and find it not an issue. There are those who say they can't detect it. And then there are those who haven't tried the bars yet and claim that they can't possibly sustain because they aren't heavy like steel! Many reviews posted on the Forum and on my web site bear these statements out. Personally, I tend to think that there is a very slight loss of sustain (when I monitor with a good mic and have headphones on) but that might not be an issue as the difference is so slight. I feel the slight loss is more than offset by the benefits of lighter weight (easier to move and hold), warmer tone, virtually silent surface noise on the strings, and a super hard surface that won't scratch and won't damage strings. It all comes down to how good your ears are, how good your equipment is, and what you are looking for in tone and playability. I'm not trying to re-invent the wheel here... just present another option for the player at a reasonable price. One must bear in mind that steel players have not had many choices over the years when it comes to bar materials, almost all have been made of steel with the exception of a few makers, like Tribotone and Slipperyslide for example. I think it's time for another option. _________________ www.stoneslides.com is my Paloma Tone Bar and Bottleneck Slide web
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