Are All Guitar Necks The Same Length

Are All Guitar Necks The Same Length

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Does the spacing of frets on a guitar solely depend on the length of the string? Meaning if I have multiple guitars of different shapes and materials, but all of the guitars have the same length of string, will their fret spacing be identical?

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The spacing of the frets depends solely on the scale length of the guitar - which is easiest to understand if you think of it as being the distance between the nut and the saddle. The nut is the slotted piece that is located at the base of the headstock and establishes the string spacing at that end of the guitar neck. The saddle is located next to the bridge on the body of the guitar, and is what the strings pass over after being secured at the bridge by the ball ends of the strings (in the case of steel string guitar - nylon strings are usually tied to the bridge before passing over the saddle). The distance between the nut and saddle equals the length of the portion of the guitar string that vibrates to make sound. It does not matter how long the guitar string is in total, the only part that matters is the part between the nut and saddle.

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In the picture you included in your question, the scale length of the guitar pictured is indicated by the red line labeled # 1.

Your picture illustrates the fact that the fret spacing gets shorter as you get closer to the bridge. If you were to put a capo on a guitar and then retune the guitar to standard tuning with the capo in place, you would in effect be shortening the scale. The fret the capo is behind becomes the new nut in effect. The new first fret after the capo will have a shorter space between the new nut and the new first fret than exist between the nut and the first fret on the guitar without the capo.

Different guitars even by the same maker will often have different scale lengths from model to model and a corresponding adjustment must be made to the spacing between frets.

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If the spacing is not precise between frets, the guitar will not play in tune on all frets. Some guitars have adjustable saddles which permit fine adjustments to the intonation to compensate for varying tuning characteristics of the particular guitar strings used - which can vary based on the type metal alloy the strings are made of and the diameter of the string.

Most saddles on acoustic guitars are compensated meaning they create a slightly different distance between point of contact at the saddle and the nut to compensate for the tuning differences between the larger diameter strings and smaller diameter strings. But the frets are always perpendicular to the fretboard and the spacing between frets is always based on the overall scale.

Technically a guitars scale is the distance between the nut and the center of the 12th fret doubled. The 12th fret is (for practical purposes) the midpoint between the nut and saddle. Therefore, the distance between the nut and 12th fret would mandate the location of the saddle and the fret spacing would be calculated based on the scale length using Pythagoras Ratios (a mathematical calculation). The Pythagoras ratios determine how the length of a guitar string (as altered by each fret) corresponds to the relative difference in pitch of the same string at each different length. For example, we know that halving the length of a guitar string (12th fret) will cause it to vibrate at a frequency which we will hear as the same note exactly one octave higher. The other divisions are more complicated than dividing by two - but each ratio will have a specific effect on the relative vibration frequency (and thus pitch) of the strings.

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The fret spacing, and the progression of frets along the fretboard as you move toward the bridge, are based on the equal-tempered scale, and are

However, two other variables affect how close a fit that fret progression is to the ideal. Those are tuning and action. Simply put, the higher the open string is tuned, or the further the strings are intended to be off of the neck, the higher the tension a fretted string will have, and that will pull fretted notes sharp. If the instrument is designed for a higher (or lower) action, or for a higher (or lower) tuning, the fret spacing

Need adjustment in order to ensure that the transverse pressure placed on the string as it's fretted, adding to its tension, combines with its shorter fretted length to keep the note in tune at each fret.

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In reality, these concerns are relatively minor for a factory-built instrument, unless your tastes in your guitar's action are really off. However, when building an instrument yourself, you cannot just lay out a totally mathematically-derived progression of frets along the fretboard and expect the thing to stay perfectly in tune. Even with the bridge intonation properly adjusted to bring the octave in tune, other frets are going to be sharper if you lay out the fretboard this way. Most commercially-available layout guides leave the string's speaking length

If you are talking about equal temperament 12 tone western tuning then yes. The length from bridge to nut sets the fret locations and hence the spacing.

‡ String radius is also a contributing factor in bridge position. Look at the bridge of a steel-string guitar and you will see the saddle for the lower strings will be further back than the higher strings. Doesn't change the scale length or the fret spacing, but the lower strings will be longer, saddle-to-nut, than the higher strings.

Do You Know Your Guitar Scale Length?

By clicking “Accept all cookies”, you agree Stack Exchange can store cookies on your device and disclose information in accordance with our Cookie Policy.This guide covers everything you would want to know about guitar scale length. It explains what scale length, why it’s important, how to measure scale length, and FAQ.

A guitar’s scale length is the distance between the nut and the bridge (check out this guide for guitar part names and what they do).

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As you can see, there is no ‘normal’ scale length for an electric guitar. The normal scale length for a Fender is 25.5″, but the normal scale length for a Gibson is 24.75″.

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While you could try to measure a guitar’s scale length by measuring the distance between the nut and the bridge, you’re not going to get an accurate result. If you look at the below photo of a bridge, you can see each string has a different starting point:

Each string has a different length to compensate for intonation. Measuring scale length this way would produce inconsistent results so I don’t recommend trying to measure scale length from the bridge.

For example, if you measure the distance from the nut to the 12th fret on a Fender Stratocaster, you should get 12.75″ or 324mm. Double that distance to get the scale length of 25.5″ or 648mm.

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Scale length plays a big part in a guitar’s playability. Let’s look at the different ways scale length can change how a guitar feels to play.

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The most important impact scale length makes is on the tension of the strings. The longer the scale length, the higher the tension needs to be to bring the string up to pitch. A short scale length requires very little tension to bring the strings up to pitch when compared to a longer scale guitar.

As an example, let’s compare a Fender Stratocaster (25.5″ scale) and a Gibson Les Paul (24.75″ scale). If both guitars used the same gauge strings and were both in standard tuning, you would notice that the Gibson is slightly easier to perform bends and vibrato compared to the Fender. When strumming chords or playing rhythm parts, you would notice that the strings on the Fender feel tighter.

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If you were to then compare the Fender and Gibson against a baritone guitar (27″ scale) with the same gauge strings in standard tuning, the difference in tension would be obvious. You would find it much harder to perform bends on the baritone and rhythm playing would feel extremely tight.

Guitar scale length is only one half of the picture when looking at string tension. For the other half, read through my Guide on Guitar Strings. You’ll learn how string gauge can be used to get the right string tension for your needs.

The action of a guitar is the gap between the strings and the frets. A guitar with ‘high action’ has a wider gap than a guitar with ‘low action’.

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String action is a result of the tension in strings. Low tension strings need more room to vibrate and without that room you’ll hear fret buzz. If you’ve ever tuned your strings down to a very low tuning (eg: Drop B), you might have noticed two things: the strings became slack, and there

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